Rolierop wrote:.
I would like some advise on buying a new DSLR camera.1. Olympus E-4102. Nikon D40x3. Nikon D404. Sony Alpha 100.
My feeling says to choose between numbers 1 and 2. And if I choose2 what would be a reason not too choose for number 3 (it's muchcheaper in the Netherlands)?.
I personally would think all of those cameras are good choices. Since it seems you do not have any lenses, you have a clean slate and you are free to choose whichever you want. Which camera do you find fits better in your hands? Which has controls that you find easier to use? That would be a good reason to lean toward a particular camera..
You should find that the D40 would do fine for almost everyone. It has fewer pixles, and if you can get over the I want more pixels problem, then you would have a fine camer an ad some money toward more lenses, flash and other accessories. Some toughts I had on the idea of more pixels:The only reason I can think of to choose a camera that has more pixels:.
A. You really are poor at framing , don't have many lenses (nor legs) to walk toward the subject or bring in the subject and want to crop every photo.B. You always make real large prints- bigger than 11x14 inches.
C. You like to fill up hard drives with photos and always wanted to get that new 1tb MyBook.
D. You want to make up for short comings elsewhere and have to have the biggest pixel count..
Rogier (Netherlands).
I enjoy the Netherlands, being a cyclist and I will make a pilgrimage again next year!Chris, Broussard, LA..
Rolierop wrote:.
I have 4 camera's on my mind wich I think are fine for me. Pleaseadvise me on these four (or sugest simmilar)..
They're all fine cameras..
1. Olympus E-4102. Nikon D40x3. Nikon D404. Sony Alpha 100.
My feeling says to choose between numbers 1 and 2. And if I choose2 what would be a reason not too choose for number 3 (it's muchcheaper in the Netherlands)?.
To me the Sony is a bit weird in this lineup. It would be more of a competitor to a D80..
I can't think of a good reason to go for a D40x over a D40. The D40 kit now sells for 398 at mediamarkt. Add a 55-200Vr to that for about 300 and you'd have a very nice setup..
Common advice is of course to go to a shop that has these in stock and handle all of them and see which one appeals to you..
You might want to check http://gathering.tweakers.net as well, some very good advice to be had there..
Thanks very very much,.
Rogier (Netherlands).
Don't wait for the Nikon D-whatever, have fun now!http://www.flickr.com/photos/j_wijnands/..
Rolierop wrote:.
I would like some advise on buying a new DSLR camera..
I use a FujiFilm FinePix S5100 for about 3 years now and want tostart with a DSLR. I have some experience with analog SLR (CanonEOS 3000)..
I have 4 camera's on my mind wich I think are fine for me. Pleaseadvise me on these four (or sugest simmilar)..
1. Olympus E-4102. Nikon D40x3. Nikon D404. Sony Alpha 100.
My feeling says to choose between numbers 1 and 2. And if I choose2 what would be a reason not too choose for number 3 (it's muchcheaper in the Netherlands)?.
I moved from a s5100 to a pentax ist ds about 2 and a half years ago. It's superb in all aspects. What I suggest is you get your hands on as many cameras as you can and decide which suits you best. In all honesty you can't go wrong. Whatever you do remember to enjoy your purchase..
Happy Shooting..
Pentax K100 needs to be on the list. All the cameras you listed are good, but the Sony Alpha 100, as someone else said, is above the others. Half way to a Nikon D80 or Canon 30D I think. Sony has Minolta heritage in their DSLR, and Minolta made some excellent SLRs. I would strongly advise that you visit a camera store and handle the different cameras. Do not be surprised if you choose Pentax.John.Please visit me at:http://www.pbase.com/johnfr/backtothebridgehttp://www.pbase.com/johnfr..
I'm just curious. You are an old canon user yet there is no Canon on the list. You don't explain how you narrowed down your list to these four so I'm not sure why you wouldn't include the XTi, especially since some of your old lenses might be compatible. That alone could be a deciding factor since you might be able to save a significant amount of money by reusing them on your new camera body. It just seemed like an odd ommision from an otherwise sensible list..
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Mike.
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'For every complex problem there is a solution that is obvious, simple..and wrong'..
You are right. I didn't mention the Canon because I heard some bad things about sharpness problems, but I must not let myself lead by that..
I indeed have an EOS 3000 analog with a standard Canon EF 38-76mm 1:4.5-5.6 lens. I even have an Pallas UV filter..
I don't think the lens will be interesting when I buy a DSLR body and a lens together in a kit. Or do you think this lens is fine and I only have to buy eg. a XTi (400D) body?.
Please let me know...
You're right that that lens won't be as useful on a DSLR because a 38-70 becomes a 60-112, but it might have some use as a short zoom..
Sharpness issues with Canon?? I'm not sure where you read that, but it's not true. How sharp the image is depends on three things - the quality of the lens, the abilities of the photographer, and the sharpness setting in the camera. The first two have nothing to do with the camera body. In regards to the last one, canon does tend to do a little less in camera processing than Nikon when you leave everything on standar factory settings, but those settings can be easily changed in the menu if you want your images to be a little sharper straight out of the camera without doing any PP. This should not be a deciding factor when choosing between these cameras. Its a non-issue..
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Mike.
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'For every complex problem there is a solution that is obvious, simple..and wrong'..
Mmelgar wrote:.
Canon does tendto do a little less in camera processing than Nikon when you leaveeverything on standar factory settings,.
That's just not true. it is your opinion. It is also not a good reason to buy or not buy a camera..
Buy one that will allow you to work well, which means it is easy to set and use and the images are pleasing to you. It really doesn't matter if they please anyone else, or if they are from a certain brand..
I got the impression that you didn't have any lenses now. That was wrong. I suggest you look into a Canon camera strongly for that reason..
Chris, Broussard, LA..
Bikinchris wrote:.
Mmelgar wrote:.
Canon does tendto do a little less in camera processing than Nikon when you leaveeverything on standar factory settings,.
That's just not true. it is your opinion. It is also not a goodreason to buy or not buy a camera..
Its not really my oppinion, it's the oppinion of those who think Canon's images are not as sharp as Nikons. Sharpness issues relating to the camera body are almost always due to processing or lack of it. Each camera is designed according to that manufacturers preference in regards to sharpness. Since these settings can usually be changed quite easily by the camera owner it doesn't make sense to make 'sharpness' an important consideration when buying a camera. It would be like making contrast or brightness and issue. These are all simple adjustments that can be set to the users taste either in the camera, or later in pp..
On occasion there may be AF issues which can make an image less sharp, but that is usually a factory defect not a design problem. While a small percent of DSLR's from all manufacturers will have this problem, I am not aware of Canon having any specific issue with this..
Buy one that will allow you to work well, which means it is easy toset and use and the images are pleasing to you. It really doesn'tmatter if they please anyone else, or if they are from a certainbrand..
You're 100% correct. Excellent advice. ( and yes I realize that is only my oppinion).
I got the impression that you didn't have any lenses now. That waswrong. I suggest you look into a Canon camera strongly for thatreason..
Your original advice was still good. Having a lens or two is something to consider but it still might make sense to switch to different manufacturer if those lenses don't meet his needs..
Chris, Broussard, LA.
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Mike.
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'For every complex problem there is a solution that is obvious, simple..and wrong'..
Mmelgar wrote:.
You're right that that lens won't be as useful on a DSLR because a38-70 becomes a 60-112, but it might have some use as a short zoom..
What about buying just the body and use my lens instead of the lens from a kit (eg. the 17-85 mm lens which is sold with the 400D (XTi) as a kit in the Netherlands).
In that case I can spend money to buy en bigger lens and use my old one for 'shorter work'...
Yes, indeed a nice camera. I forgot about this one, thanks. Maybe this will be the one for me..
I like the specs and will try this one in the store too, along with the others in my list...
I just went through this exact situation. Just bought the 400D and put my old 35-70, and 70-200 on it. The long lens was fine since it gets even longer on a DSLR, but my short lens was not good enough for close work since it gives the equivalent of 60mm on the short end. To see what this means, put the lens on your old eos and zoom to 60mm. Thats what the 38 will look like through a DSLR. What I ended up doing as my current solution is put the new Sigma 18-200 DC OS on my 400D.
Total cost of the camera and lens was about$1200 US ( camera $650, lense $540).
Mike.
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'For every complex problem there is a solution that is obvious, simple..and wrong'..
Call your attention upon one thing..
If you go to Canon or Nikon, you'll have no in-body stabilization. And with the Nikon, not even auto-focus for a lot of their lenses.Somebody gave you an advice about a Canon 400 with 18-200 OS lens.That lens costs 600 euros in Germany.The same lens for a Sony or a Pentax will cost you 300 euros.And that will happen with every lens you buy.Your money, your choice...Just passing by.....
Jpp wrote:.
Call your attention upon one thing.If you go to Canon or Nikon, you'll have no in-body stabilization.And with the Nikon, not even auto-focus for a lot of their lenses..
That's hyperbole. The D40 is sold with a perfectly good lens and there is a very good selection of lenses available that can do anything the avaerage person that camera is designed for as well as a line of professional lenses used every day by professionals in all fields of photography. If you can't make a better arguement than that, just say that you want him to buy your favorite camera, not his..
Somebody gave you an advice about a Canon 400 with 18-200 OS lens.That lens costs 600 euros in Germany.The same lens for a Sony or a Pentax will cost you 300 euros.And that will happen with every lens you buy.Your money, your choice...Just passing by....
Chris, Broussard, LA..
My point here was to explain him any stabilized lens will cost him much more money than a regular one he can use on a camera with in-body stabilizer..
To answer your argument: any motorized fast prime lens from Nikon, like a 50mm f1.4 maybe???.
Http://episteme.arstechnica.com/...c/f/67909965/m/947004175831/r/782007375831.
And if you want another argument, since you asked: how do you change ISO on a D40?1.you click on the info button on top2.you click on the I button on the back3.you use the four ways button to find ISO in the menu4.you click OK5.you choose the ISO6.you click OK7.you shoot.
ON a Sony?1.you put the dial on ISO2.you choose the ISO3.you shoot.
And I have neither a Sony, nor a Pentax, and no favorite camera at the moment (what about you?). I just call his attention on some facts.Just passing by.....
Jpp wrote:.
And I have neither a Sony, nor a Pentax, and no favorite camera atthe moment (what about you?). I just call his attention on somefacts..
My favorite camera is the Nikon D2H. I have two of them and am looking for a third. I am a proud Nikon fanboy. I have little use for any other camera system, but I suggested that he look harder at the Canon because he already has a Canon lens. I am also practical. In my shooting (sports), I have no use for VR and I find it to adds useless cost to a system, but that doesn't mean that it is not useful for other people..
Chris, Broussard, LA..
We do not know what kind of photography he wants to do.
You say that for your kind of photography I have no use for VR. Fair enough..
But, lets imagine he is in other kind of photography, and Stabilization will be a big plus for him. You also say: I find it to add useless cost to a system and there we agree 200%. That was exactly my point..
And the in-body stabilization comes free with the camera, and you use it if you need or ignore it if you dont.I couldnt have a camera without it, but thats just my opinion..
You say your favorite camera is the geriatric D2H, and I also agree 200% with you on that one. Forget about all those pixel war creatures. Good picture IQ didnt appear with 10 mega pixels cameras, on the contrary..
I am very happy with my old Minolta I bought second hand and dont even think of upgrading, not even for a Sony. 80).
So, rolierop, why not checking the second hand market and get a better camera?.
Canon has been mentioned, I just checked Kelkoo Germany and found this: best price for a 400D (XTI) is 550 euros; best price for a 20D is 600 euros, and this is a new one, second hand should be cheaper.
Now, Chris, the worse is you say: I am a proud Nikon fan boy!Well, relax, nobody is perfect, not even me!And this is of course a very tong in cheek comment ;0).
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Jpp wrote:.
And the in-body stabilization comes free with the camera,.
"Free" died a long time ago. I laugh every time I see a car sales commercial and they say that you will get something free?!.
So, rolierop, why not checking the second hand market and get abetter camera?.
I agree there. Sometimes you can find fantastic deals on used equipment..
Now, Chris, the worse is you say: I am a proud Nikon fan boy!Well, relax, nobody is perfect, not even me!And this is of course a very tong in cheek comment ;0).
Meekly... Hi, I am Chris... (room answers: Hi Chris) and I am a Nikon fanboy..
Just passing by....
Chris, Broussard, LA..
You should also consider canon rebel 400d it's a superb camera you will really love it..
Excellent image quality.. read the canon xti/400d review on this site(review section).
I do have the canon xti/400d and I am very happy with it..
You have a lot of canon lenses to choose from prices are from 50 dollar up to over 2000 dollar... you can also always buy used lensed from photo stores or buy lenses from ebay and you get a really good deals.some canon lenses has Image stabilizer too so it's your money and your choice..
Well, I made my choice..
I will buy the Pentax K100D Super with a 18-55 kit lens, which is in store now in The Netherlands..
Have a new question now..
Who can advise me about a good flashlite?Original Pentax or another brand. What is important to look for?.
I don't want to spent too much money on a flashlite though..
Can I use my old flashlite until I have a new one? That's a Carena CA-21 flasher..
It has only one contact point, so I guess the camera doesn't communicate with it?..
Rolierop wrote:.
Excellent choice...I have the K110D myself and could not be happier. I had been prepared to spend $1000 or so just on the camera body and on my search for what camera to get ran across the K100D and K110D (just like the K100D only without shake reduction) and found it met and even exceeded my expectations..
In the end I took the money I saved and bought first quality Pentax lenses and haven't regretted the decision at all. Canon and Nikon make decent cameras and lenses no question about it...but so does Pentax and I'm delighted to see more people open to the idea of getting passed the slick advertising campaigns of Canon and Nikon and willing to look at other quality DSLR's from other makers such as Pentax..
Well, I made my choice..
I will buy the Pentax K100D Super with a 18-55 kit lens, which is instore now in The Netherlands..
Have a new question now..
Who can advise me about a good flashlite?Original Pentax or another brand. What is important to look for?.
I don't want to spent too much money on a flashlite though..
Can I use my old flashlite until I have a new one? That's a CarenaCA-21 flasher.It has only one contact point, so I guess the camera doesn'tcommunicate with it?..
Rolierop wrote:.
Well, I made my choice..
I will buy the Pentax K100D Super with a 18-55 kit lens, which is instore now in The Netherlands..
Have a new question now..
Who can advise me about a good flashlite?Original Pentax or another brand. What is important to look for?.
I don't want to spent too much money on a flashlite though..
Can I use my old flashlite until I have a new one? That's a CarenaCA-21 flasher.It has only one contact point, so I guess the camera doesn'tcommunicate with it?.
Excellent choice in camera, but then anyone of your picks would have been...the biggest difference in entry level DSLRS now is the system you buy into as they all will prodice terrific images. As far as a flash goes, the K100D only supports P-TTL and does not support TTL flash so to get most benefit you will need to buy P-TTL compatible unit......the Pentax models are the obvious choice but I believe both Sigma anbd Metz also make P-TTL compatible units. Your old flash will work provided two thigns are checked....the trigger voltage to make usre it is not too high, and what type of modes are available on your flash..
The older units, with a compatible trigger voltage, will work on the K100D in automatic flash mode and manual mode. Your flash appears to have two automatic modes so provided it's trigger voltage is ok, it should work just fine..
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Ok, thanks. I cannot find what voltage it uses. Only thing I can find is High Trigger Voltage. It works fine on my analog EOS 3000. Is it safe to try it on my new K100D Super?..
Well, I measured the voltage. It's 222 volts, way too much for the Pentax dslr's. They recomend to stay under 30 volts..
I'm bidding on a Pentax AF-360 FGZ now on Ebay. Also looking at a new Tumax DPT 386 AFZ and a new Sigma EF500 DG ST. Hope to win the Pentax on Ebay...