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Yuzuha wrote:.
Hi,.
I kept hoping someone would eventually make a digital back for myCanon T90 but even Canon abandoned me when they dumped the FD mountand went EOS, and processing is such a hassle that I haven't evenused that in years so I guess it is time to go digital..
Anyway, I'm looking for some help picking out a dslr and and wouldappreciate some thoughts and suggestions since I know nothing aboutdigital photography..
I would appreciate something that handles more like a film slrsince I'm familiar with them. And, since I mostly shoot scenery,macro shots, night street scenes and the like, I don't need fancystuff snap-shot users like... i.e. "face recognition," or directprint (I intend to shoot mostly raw and tweak things in paint shopanyway).
I would also like something that will attach to microscopes and theoccasional telescope and not be a pain to manually focus. Itshould also have decent low light performance with high enoughISO's to avoid motion blur. It would also be a plus if anyonemade an adapter to allow it to handle old Canon FD lenses as well,but I really don't have much hope for that so figure I'll have toget at least one good zoom or a couple of primes..
Cameras I've been thinking about are:.
Pentax K10d with 18-55 kit lens and SMCP-DA 50-200mm f/4-5.6 ED andmaybe SMCP-DA 40mm f/2.8 Limited pancake lens if the rebates keepit all in budget (good viewfinder, interchangeable screens,accurate colors... don't care if jpegs are soft as long as I cansharpen up the raws)..
Olympus E-510 with both kit lenses (cheaper, small and light withgood kit lenses, but don't know if anyone has made T or C rings forit yet so migh have to stack on an OM to 4/3rd adapter, but "liveview" might be great for manually focussing through a microscope).
Canon 30D with 17-85mm f/4-5.6 EF-S IS USM (decent noise at highISO but doen't leave any wiggle room in the budget and doesn't haveinterchangeable focus screens for manual focus).
I would appreciate your thoughts on these as well as any othersuggestions you might have.Thanks,Pam.
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It should suit admirably, and cost a lot less than the other options you listed?.
However, try to actually handle/use each of them, one may just leap out and shout ME! when you get to hold it?.
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Hm, everything I read there leans me towards the K10d, which would still be cheaper than the EOS, and if I can find an adaptall 2 to KA adapter my old Tamron lenses will work on it too...
Tim the Grey wrote:.
It should suit admirably, and cost a lot less than the otheroptions you listed?However, try to actually handle/use each of them, one may just leapout and shout ME! when you get to hold it?.
I must admit that I'm strangely drawn to the E-510... maybe because I like their microscopes or maybe because it is small and light like the OM-2 I sometimes wished I'd have picked up instead of the A-1. Don't know, but I've seen OM adaptall rings so I can posslibly salvage my old Tamron lenses to work on it.... Gee, would that make my SP 500mm f8 mirror lens into a 1000mm f16? Be one heck of a telephoto!..
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Yuzuha wrote:.
I would appreciate something that handles more like a film slrsince I'm familiar with them..
Panasonic L1?.
Alex.
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Currently e-330's can be had with a 2 lens kit [one of which is one of the best kit lenses made, the other one not bad at all] for as low as $559.00. check cameta auctions on ebaylook at the 'buy it now' prices. I just got one after waiting over a year. for what you are doing it's an excellent cameraand compared to the costs of others would leave you a great deal of money left over for other gear, such as a really superb lens or a PSD for travel..
It's a very serious option at an incredible price. don't discount that live view in an articulating screen [with 10x magnification and mirror lock up for critical manual focus]fantastic for tripod work for landscapes, macros, etc]. give it a hard look. no better deal out there...
Yuzuha wrote:.
"live view" might be great for manually focussing through a microscope).
Here something usefull on the Sony A100, and it's an APS-C:.
"Direct Manual Focus operates like Automatic AF, but after focus is automatically found, it can be adjusted manually. The focus signal in the viewfinder tells you when you can manually adjust focus".http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/AA100/AA100A4.HTM.
It give to you a total control of a "manual focusing"..
Michel J..
Yuzuha wrote:.
Tim the Grey wrote:.
It should suit admirably, and cost a lot less than the otheroptions you listed?However, try to actually handle/use each of them, one may just leapout and shout ME! when you get to hold it?.
I must admit that I'm strangely drawn to the E-510... maybe becauseI like their microscopes or maybe because it is small and lightlike the OM-2 I sometimes wished I'd have picked up instead of theA-1. Don't know, but I've seen OM adaptall rings so I canposslibly salvage my old Tamron lenses to work on it.... Gee, wouldthat make my SP 500mm f8 mirror lens into a 1000mm f16? Be oneheck of a telephoto!.
It would give you the field of view of 1000mm but still be f8.
Neil..
And the current crop let you see it on the rear LCD at up to 10x magnification....
Live View has it's uses..
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Tim the Grey wrote:.
All Olympus bodies do that?.
Well... yes but the sensor is not an APS-C so the size of the pix on the sensor is smaller, less photon is catched by it. microscope means a best DR range. BTW Olympus are very capable camera too, for sure..
Here another link about Direct Manual Focus.
Http://64.233.183.104/...Manual+Focus%22+a100&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=11.
Hope this can help..
Michel J..
Tex wrote:.
Currently e-330's can be had with a 2 lens kit [one of which is oneof the best kit lenses made, the other one not bad at all] for aslow as $559.00. check cameta auctions on ebaylook at the 'buyit now' prices. I just got one after waiting over a year. forwhat you are doing it's an excellent cameraand compared to thecosts of others would leave you a great deal of money left over forother gear, such as a really superb lens or a PSD for travel..
Great idea. Looked at that and the Panny L1 which seems similar, though with the viewfinder on the left and me not being able to see well out of my right eye, it would be leaving an awful lot of nose prints on the LCD and you can't turn noise reduction off according to the review here. I'm really wondering what their replacement for the E-1 is going to be (and if ordinary humans will be able to afford it)..
Wijnands wrote:.
And you may actually post a 2 line reply without quoting the entirepost..
And I may not .
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Nope. Because that would make sense and be good netiquette.Don't wait for the Nikon D-whatever, have fun now!http://www.flickr.com/photos/j_wijnands/..
Wijnands wrote:.
Nope. Because that would make sense and be good netiquette..
Good netiquette is not what you posted before .
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Wijnands wrote:.
What's wrong with a D80?Don't wait for the Nikon D-whatever, have fun now!http://www.flickr.com/photos/j_wijnands/.
Well, for astrophotography you have to turn it off durring dark-frame aquisition to keep a median filter from processing out star images from the raw file before saving it. Price drops make it more appealing now, but that and the low high-iso noise of the Canon 30d edged it ahead. I did think of getting an IR modified Canon 350 for astro and IR photography and a Nikon d40 as it seems a great camera to carry around for random acts of photography, but then I'd have to deal with two different lens mounts. So, I had this thought in the back of my head that I could just get a 30d and forget about the IR stuff until I could afford to have it modded..
Ideally, I'd love a Fuji S3 UVIR with a good set of filters, but they've been discontinued and the few I have seen for sale were over two grand. Too bad their latest IR camera is a fixed lens variant of the s9100, which won't play well with scopes...
Neil holmes wrote:.
It would give you the field of view of 1000mm but still be f8.
Neil.
Ah, Thanks... I wasn't sure how that crop factor worked. That's even better. Then with the teleconverter it would act like a 2000mm f16. Wonder if that would be fast enough for unguided moon shots?.
Haven't seen an adaptall-2 to KFA adapter (people must be scarfing them up) but it should work on the K10d too... if I can find one..
It would be nice if I could at least salvage that and the teleconverter that goes with it. Too bad the same can't be said for my Toyo 28-80 (apparently a rare bird since Toyo mostly sticks to 4x5 view cameras, but apparently they breifly dabbled in 35mm lenses back before Mamiya dropped out of the 35mm race)..
IMO, if for noise issue the better way seems to be a second hand KM 5D or 7D..
My two cents.Michel J..