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Begginer looking for an SLR. Need opinions please.
Hi, my name is Damien Falzon..

This is my first post on this forum.Right now I have a HP R707 which was quite good for now..

Now I feel that I need to step up to an SLR because the 707 isn't giving me the wow factor when I see the photos. I usally use my camera at car shows and because most of them are indoor the colours don't come out so well.I have been looking at some Canon and Nikon models..

I would like to hear also about what lenses would be best suited to take pics at car shows..

Thanks for your time and help..

Comments (13)

Wow factor. if by this you mean heavy saturated colors then no dslr is going to do that. they are not made to give strongly saturated colors. they are made to give ACCURATE COLORS. not heavy saturated colors..

This is not the same thing at all. too many people who come from a p&s are very disappointed in th dslr colors, because they are not bright and saturated. this is because they are and have been using a p&s which has been giving them saturated and incorrect clors for so long that they think it is the right look. nothing could be further from the truth. the p&s colors are wrong, wrong. the camera manufactures know that the public buys high megapixel and heavy saturated colors and is what they make and sell to the public..

But the slr/dslr is a whole different world. for the dslr accuracy of the scene in terms of view and color is a religion rpt religion. you want accurate color that is what you are going to get with dslr. but they will not be the bright saturated colors of a p&s. ytou can with adjustments in the menus up the color is dslr, but it will not look the INACCURATE CARTOON COLOR of the p&s..

If you are wishing to buy a dslr for more and brighter color, save you money the p&s is what you want..

Not too long ago a new owner of a dslr was on these forums talking about the poor color of his new dslr. it seems as if he was shooting on an overcast day. many many people replying to him told him that cloudy day shots give the most accurate color, which they do. he couldn't believe and get over that idea. he also owned a p&S previously...

Comment #1

Actually not to contradict but if you are looking for a beginner dSLR with some wow factor, consider the very affordable Nikon D40....

Http://www.stunningnikon.com/picturetown/.

The advantage of this particular dSLR is that it is created for use by novices (see the photos at the link above, they were done by complete newbies to photography, as Nikon randomly gave away 200 of their cameras to people in a small town in SC)..

And it's not very expensive...

Comment #2

Thanks for your reply..

What I meant by the wow factor is that with my r707 the colours come dull. What I want is camera which takes photos as you see the object in real life. My r707 is a bit in the low side of colour especially indoors were their is not much light...

Comment #3

Read my previous reply..

Any of the the entry dslrs will give you what you are saying what you want: color accuracy. they either have it in the default mode or can be adjusted to give it..

You simply take a series of test shots adjusting the camera after each shot to eventually give the look you want. you adjust the jpeg/raw then the shooting mode then the saturation/contrast/sharpness. you only make one adjustment at a time...

Comment #4

I do not think you read what I said. you simply replied to it..

The op as talking about going to a dslr from a p&s and wanted good results. as I replied to him, any of the entry dslr from canon nikon olympus pentax and sony will do the job of giving accurate color or they can be adjusted that way. the accurate color issue is only one of the concerns in buying a dslr...

Comment #5

The other thing that I would like to have as an option is that sometimes I see photografers getting really close to a car and then when you see the photo it looks so sharp and wide. Does this effect come with a wide lens?.

Please note that I am still learning this hobby.I would like to thank all of you for helping me...

Comment #6

For colour that would have been Minolta, sadly no longer producing their own brands and I don't think Sony (who bought their technology) is as good at colour on their 10.2mp sensor and processor. So I will be really sad when my K-Minolta 5D expires..

Provided that you don't need to build up a big pro system for work (in which case Canon or Nikon) you might like to go to Olympus which has always done really nice colour coupled with a sympathetic exposure system..

Take a look on PBase.com and search by camera to see what people have been posting from the various brands..

Remember too that you can always up the saturation in the camera menu the achieve the kind of results you like, and that would mean all DSLRs are open to you..

If you are a beginner with a strong budget then begin with one of the best: Canon 30D and Nikon D200, you can use them in Aperture or Shutter Priority modes while you learn. (You won't need to upgrade cameras for quite a while then.).

On a tighter budget: Olympus, Pentax, Sony, Canon, Nikon entry level models - all deserve being looked at in a camera store. Handling is such an important factor. Take time to discover if you like the viewfinder, if you can easily see the data displayed on it, if all the controls are within easy reach of fingers etc, does anything clash (for example if you are 'wrong-eyed' then your nose may end up catching the 4-way controller.) And, if you intend to use a tripod, make sure the camera has an additional LCD panel on the top plate - just imagine trying to see into the back of the camera to confirm settings when it's down near the ground. And then there's Anti-Shake. In camera - so that all lenses get the benefit, or expensively in individual lenses only. It defintely helps..

Lenses are the real investment, they will stay with you for years and years provided that you are not provoked into switching camera brands. This is why so many go for the safer bet Canon and Nikon systems. Kit lenses, although not much better than those on top of the range non-dslrs, can nonetheless bring better results thanks to the sensor size being larger and less noise prone..

So first choose the manufacturer's system you like best and are happy to stay with, then buy a body that you feel handles comfortably, and get the best lens you can afford..

John.Please visit me at:http://www.pbase.com/johnfr/backtothebridgehttp://www.pbase.com/johnfr..

Comment #7

You need a wider angle lens to do that. My most used lenses are wide angle through normal. In fact, one of my favorites is a Zenitar 16 Fisheye, which gives the 35mm field of view of about 18mm on my *istDS...

Comment #8

Right now I was looking at some slr's and one that really caught my eye was the nikon d40x. What does everybody think about this camera?..

Comment #9

The D40 is not bad but you will only get AF with lenses that have the motor built in. There is also no top LCD display. If you want to see what the aperture is, you have to hold it to your face..

I have mentioned the K100D before. It is not N or C but it has AS and a bit more capable. It is the same size but a little heavier because it uses AA rechargeable batteries. IMHO, it is a more complete package and one someone can grow with better...

Comment #10

I've just recently purchased a Canon EOS 400D costing 479.99 from Jessops, at the moment there is a Canon cashback promotion to celebrate 20yrs of EOS cameras. So, after sending off my claim to Canon, I received a cheque for 50.00 - effectively making the cost of the camera just 429.99 - excellent value for the features on this camera. I have heard the odd grumble about the lens provided but have no complaints myself..

The alternative is the Nikon D40x which runs the EOS 400D very close from what I have read. However, it's down to personal choice and the best thing is to visit the local Jessops /photographic store and have a look first hand..

I have to say the Canon EOS 400D is an excellent introduction to DSLRs..

Good luck with your eventual choice!.

If anyone can, Canon can!..

Comment #11

If you got a big budget, go for it. If you don't then pick up a D40 so that you'll have some more cash to put towards a lens. Unless you need to impress people with megapixels, in that case do get a D40xDon't wait for the Nikon D-whatever, have fun now!http://www.flickr.com/photos/j_wijnands/..

Comment #12

Hi Damien,.

I haven't seen anyone mention the Olympus E500 it's a great camera and the people at the Oly forum are really helpful and supportive so you'll learn a lot from them. I got the E500 after using the Olympus C770 (which I still have and like very much). You might look into it before making a final decision. Of course, some post-processing is always necessary (I used Picasa and need to learn Photoshop, but Picasa is OK for me right now.).

Susan G..

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Http://www.pbase.com/susan_1016..

Comment #13


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